We're back with our 4th episode! We touch base after the COVID-19 stay-at-home order and share an amazing pre-lockdown interview with my friend and Eastern North Carolina native, Michael Murdoch. We talk about his long history in environmentalism, his work with the Sierra Club, and big time litter topics like volunteerism, litter education, and law enforcement. We end the talk with our 'Litter Headlines' segment, dissecting some litter news stories from around the country. Enjoy!